The Space Marines were to protect humanity and are expendable as such. And now Guilliman lives in his greatest fear: a corrupt, superstitious, tyrannical Imperium. He can insist that he thought the Emperor was dead all he wants but in 40k that’s not the mitigating circumstances, it’s the crime. They were things. Yet Guilliman was always the primarch rooted in reality most, attached. ‘My father is no god. Deng is a really random choice, especially given Guilliman's clear Roman ties. The Eldar, back before the Fall, were slavers. He set up the Word Bearers to want to go after the Ultramarines. ‘I say that you fear too much, and that Roboute Guilliman is a true son of the Emperor,’ said Achallor. Please go read them if you can. Thiel guns him apart with his reloaded boltgun, two-handed brace, feet anchored. Guilliman nodded. Guilliman tries to kill one in Dark Imperium but that daemon is fated to exist at the end of time so it can't be killed. Plot summary of Gathering Storm II: Fracture of Biel-Tan. "Be at peace , brother," he started , gazing into eyes that were. if any chaos or say xenos dude did the same action with the same ease, in the course of a single book, to the center of. . . He was there to watch the primarch. The very idea of words seemed ridiculous, the concept of them a grevious harm against the equilibrium of time and being. Emperor was trying to tell them to pick up the pace. Told Nurgle to piss off when orders to retreat came in and exposed nurgles realm to attack from the emperor. The viral zephyrs would cling to the planet for a time before finally feasting upon itself and dissipating, transforming a planet of little life to one of absolutely none. It is men who do His work for. He appeared dead. ‘My father is no god. But now? Guilliman finally gained his composure. He kinda did. 53 votes, 36 comments. Tau try to annex Imperial Worlds thinking the Great Rift weakened them. [deleted] • 3 yr. Guilliman is very painfully aware that he can't simply pick up as 30k intended before everything got twisted, especially when it comes to worshiping the emperor as a god. He was not the man who brought. The Emperor’s light was blinding, all encompassing, but finally – finally – Guilliman had seen it as a whole. ‘The Emperor protects,’ Iolanth said. ’ Achallor dipped his head. The being he had thought of as a father could hide nothing from him. Practical, the Emperor is not a god. The Emperor's light was blinding, all encompassing, but finally - finally - Guilliman had seen it as a whole. Do we know if the Emperor instructed Guilliman to do. ago. See full list on warhammer40k. They made sure they left their conquered worlds. He does acknowledge that some might see his actions as traitorous to the Imperium, but his goal was saving. Inevitable and actually really solid for Guilliman as a mechanic. He heard all these at once. Two legends meet each other. In fact that's probably what made him one of the most adjusted and functional Primarchs, He suffered Loss and Failure, BEFORE The Emperor Arrived and that made him more introspective and self-critical, Rather than pushing all blame onto The. It would more likely just re-form in the warp. Despite his injuries Dante demands to be taken. Such they had the best toys, deployed all the tactics from just about every legion, had special training so they didn't rely on techmarines/mars, and many of the original Terrans had psychic wards placed on them by Big E himself, making. Could be that the Emperor did not want to answer but the question arises why he did not. "Lorgar’s arguments are persuasive, but are built on several fallacies for all that. Guilliman’s corpse rose up, and hung in the air, supported by a pillar of radiance, and slowly turned so he was upright. He knows Cypher is not freeing him out of the kindness of his heart but is using Guilliman to his own ends. You will die, and our father will die, and so will all the others, because you are all to stupid to see the truth. LOLOLOLOL” I mean, a meme I get, but I seriously think some people genuinely think it’s cannon. 3. Secondly, when Mortarion almost kills Guilliman, Emperor literally possesses a girl to scatter the Daemons and save his only remaining loyal son. The Imperial Regent cannot command the Custodes they dont answer to the emperor, they answer to the Emperor of Mankind. Emperor was trying to tell them to pick up the pace. Some were defenders of the people, some were absolutely loyal to the Emperor, and some were just too good to go down the dark path of treachery and deceit. Out of all the Primarchs, the Emperor directly intervened to make sure that Guilliman is found by Konor, this is said to be the only moment in which the Emperor directly interevne to make sure that Guilliman is found by Konor and not the Illyrian tribes. In the new lore the Emperor didn't consider the Primarchs his sons but rather tools to be used and discarded. - Dark Imperium. ‘What is the purpose you have in mind for me?’ asked Guilliman. When Guilliman went into stasis he was objectively a loyal servant of the Emperor. Big Papa Blue shows up, wipes the floor with them tactically. Guilliman wins, either through the power of the faith humanity has in him or by being super-charged by the Emperor. It isn't disrespect to Guilliman so much as devotion to the Emperor alone. 6. When he came out he was objectively a usurper. Cause he had the biggest legion. ‘He created me, but I assure you, priest, that He was no father. Within the universe, Guilliman very well may be capable of showing them all a better way (notwithstanding that this "better way" is coming from a man who commits genocide on a Tuesday), which is exactly why out of universe it'll never happen. The Emperor's vision for humanity died the second Magnus 'I didn't do nuffin wrong' the Red fucked the webway project. ’. They were things. The Emperor greeted Guilliman not as a father receives a son, but as a craftsmen who rediscovers a favourite tool that he thought lost. They did get extra attention from the Emperor and were his chosen Legion until they were given to The Lion. I think there's a difference between channeling into a mind and making something's warp presence of your own image. - Dark Imperium. ago. ‘He is not my father,’ Guilliman said. I would say Guilliman is more of Marius/Augustus combo. This bloated, rotten carcass of an empire is driven not by reason and hope, but by fear, hate and ignorance. Mathieu was thankfully unmoved. The Emperor was just using bog standard possession, like a daemon sword possessing Fulgrim or End of Empires possessing, well everything from a basic human to a titan. His body was a pilgrimage site for nearly ten thousand years. The Emperor did not love His sons. This is the BoLS Team’s Murder on the Orient Express/Ocean’s 11 theory for how it goes down: Eldar use the webway to get everyone into the Throne Room. If all else went wrong, he would be heir to the empire. and no, I dont believe Guilliman is a traitor. 10. 21. The Lion needs the reminder. ”. They were things. Euten had blown a raspberry. No bad blood, just “thank god, someone competent to have my back. ‘Father gave you His blade, I see. Perhaps that tipped it. In Dark Imperium it states that Guilliman did speak to the emperor telepathically and the emperor's mind has strengthened to completely new levels however he has lost his patience and humanity in the process, living as a consciousness in a rotten corpse for over 10,000 years would probably do that to you though so. 7. ‘Roboute Guilliman. I wonder if, when the time is right, Emperor would ‘rejuvenate’ Lion in a similar fashion. Guilliman, one presumes, heeded the warning. Couple this with him having a hard time. He doesn't have the time to focus on the. There was great warpcraft in the weapon. Ever since Guilliman came back with the help of Yvraine and Eldrad, people have been asking what his exact stance on working with Xenos is. The few crew on the command deck tried very hard not to listen in. So at the minimum that's one primarch with a similar level of accomplishment as Guilliman before being found again by the Emperor. Despite his seemingly peaceful nature Sanguinius was known for his martial prowess, to the extent he was considered a match for Horus and Lion El’Jonson in combat ability. Guilliman returns to Ultramar and counter-attacks. ’ ‘Thief. Guilliman organizes and leads crusades; Johnson and his spaceknights protect the Imperium from things rank and file won't be able to handle. An Emperor who can still speak clearly and say something like "you will assume this title and do these tasks" is not an Emperor that Guilliman would renounce. The books are quite enjoyable and brought out some great contradictions between Guilliman and the God-Emperor religion. Mathieu was thankfully unmoved. Guilliman may even have been able to resist if he wanted to. The speculation is that Guilliman goes to talk with the Emperor, and emerges with the Emperors sword. And don't forget how "Lord Guilliman" is actually a title that the commander of all Imperium forces held until the War of the Beast. Big E does a little trolling. ‘He will,’ agreed Guilliman. So he gets resurrected after clearing the black legion from Ultramar he decides to visit Big E, after surving every fuck you chaos can throw at him. Because it never happens. In the new lore the Emperor didn't consider the Primarchs his sons but rather tools to be used and discarded. Ultramar. The Emperor did not love His sons. ’ ‘Guilliman. Thus spoke Roboute Guilliman in 41K. Theoretical, Guilliman thought savagely now, turning his anger against his traitorous mind. In this, he would no doubt say he is merely following his father’s will. There was no hope in this world. The infant Guilliman’s capsule fell to earth on Macragge,. Guilliman had no illusions. Mortarion glanced down at the Emperor’s sword. But I have reasons to believe otherwise. What hurt most deeply was what went unsaid. Guilliman has tried for over a decade to convince the Imperium and its leaders that the Emperor is not a god, with no success. This is why the Emperor never made Guilliman Warmaster, he didn't want to make him a bigger target or influence him away from his purpose. When Guilliman went into stasis he was objectively a loyal servant of the Emperor. Templars- Uh huh. He behaved like a prisoner locked in an iron cage who is passed a rasp. The source of their conflicts was never Guilliman doing something the Lion hated. "That's a rare weapon indeed," Magnus said, "A useless and broken weapon. The Lion chastises Guilliman for keeping secrets, whereas he’s the Secret King of Keeping Secretsville Like, all the Primarchs have a super special Magical Girl™️ power trait they inherited from Biggy Emps: Vulkan is The Boy Who Wasn’t Unalived, Magnus has that good good psycho brainmeats, Guilliman likes to make lists and rules for all his toys, and the. The Space Marines were to protect humanity and are expendable as such. Discord - Old Man's Patreon - -. Colquan glared him. He wants to reunite humanity again and destroy the old doctrine of idolatry towards the emperor in order to lead humanity to the right path. Either the Emperor is dead, either he has no longer power to communicate remotely with anyone -which is the same that being dead- either he actually does not care anymore. The heat of anger coming off him beat at Mathieu. The Emperor was never a god, denied He was a god and has been wrongly elevated by men who see power and mistake it for divinity. It was the look of the blindly faithful. The whole practical/theoretical thing isn't what normal people do, because normal people have feelings making up the difference. Probably Magnus kills him, but Guilliman pops back up and continues to inflict damage until he wins. Guilliman stopped his walking and looked down at the woman. ‘Lorgar was wrong about our creator. ”Roboute Guilliman never forgot what caused his adoptive father's death. When interacting with Dante too during Devastation of Baal I always got the feeling that Guilliman really was hoping to get a similar relationship with Dante as he did Sanguinius. In short, Guilliman's loyalty is to the Emperor's goals and ideals, more so than to the. Guilliman stated that his time on the throne made him "lose his subtlety", so instead of seeing the Emperor however he used to see him telling him he was a good boy, he got a painful light accidentally letting slip that he doesn't really care about him as a person. ’. ’ With the telling quote, Guilliman doesn't know if the Emperor is a god now or not but if he is, he isn't worth worshiping. The Emperor's goal is to uplift humanity into a new Golden Age. Perhaps him hearing the Emperor say “you were my tools” was just what Roboute thought all along, thus the illusion fit the image. " Rogal grumbled, his eyebrows furrowing in disappointment. The Custodians' captain-general gave it to him; Guilliman did not begrudge the priest his awe. Either way, Lucius winds up imprisoned, indefinitely, until he can be sealed away and abandoned somewhere. A Custodian of clear authority strode towards the Throne, with a massive golden hammer in one of his hands and his helm in the other. Thus, by definition, the Inquisition is his to command. Trading the thousands Curze did and might kill was not even with the Lions methods. One of the most important points in the current Warhammer 40k lore is the encounter between Primarch Roboute Guilliman and the Emperor of Mankind from Warhammer 40000. Big E probably knew where Lion was, and knows where Russ, Corax, Dorn, and Vulkan are. The Emperor greeted Guilliman not as a father receives a son, but as a craftsmen who rediscovers a favourite tool that he thought lost. Guilliman still calls himself Guilliman and is power is white rather than the gold that you see from the Emperor. Magos Lehm, next one. Fulgrim's crown, Kairos, Magnus etc he meets Big E. He behaved like a prisoner locked in an iron cage who is passed a rasp. The primarch's physical presence hit Dante hard. . When the Emperor appears to Magnus during the Siege, He projects into Magnus’ mind as a glowing sun-god and they burn through the warp together, moving through billions of years in moments. Ruling over his own segment. Jarax · 8/9/2017. No random Rogue trader is gonna talk with. Inquisition hides the body and kills any witnesses. And RG is a. Guilliman recoiled from the adoration shining from. Quel Tarin · 4/6/2017. Bare with me because I am only about a third of the way into Dark Imperium so its entirely possible some of these issues will be addressed as the story progresses, but Guilliman appears to be doing the same stupid crap the Emperor did and the Guilliman himself did before he got put in stasis. Lion fought Chaos at Caliban and Sang fought and died on Terra. Guilliman has the Emperor's Sword, Johnson has the Emperor's shield; I don't think the symbolism could be less obvious. Too late, the Neverborn understood the danger it was in, and tried to flee. The thing that always gets me is that Guilliman doesn't gloat or say much of anything, really. Sanguinius fell, he had the carry the Emperor back from the vengeful spirit, and his sons did the brunt of the line work on the walls. Guilliman's return sparked Mortarion's interest in material affairs once more, and for the first time in 10,000 years he decided to lead the whole of the Death Guard in a renewed campaign. What horrors you have endured, I cannot imagine. Tech-Priests have levels of machine-enforced autism that normal people simply can't match. Guilliman is channeling power from the Emperor but it’s fully possessed by him, so he still has limited information. The Word Bearers' way of war had annoyed him. Even Horus laments how he has the lunatics and dregs of the primarchs on his side. ’ ‘Failure. Right now Chaos has three wayward brothers, and Guilliman could use some help. ’ His voice softened further, becoming yet more human, and his heroic expression did not change exactly, but he somehow became more relatable. ’ Guilliman looked at the girl’s mutilated body. ‘I regret to say he is still at large,’ he admitted, ashamed. Before the future Lord of Ultramar is thrown into the galaxy, the. And the Emperors sword kind of fucks with Chaos being able to come back. That is not to say that the Emperor wasn't always strong. Kor Phaeron’s narrow lips moulded into a grimace, opposing his primarch’s smirk. 1 more reply. Emperor of Mankind & Roboute Guilliman; Emperor of Mankind (Warhammer 40. ” Rogal: “The child has the features of Roboute, yet is quite clumsy. Mighty heroes battle for the right to rule the galaxy. CryptoYou say that, but he goes out of his way to protect Guilliman, both in 30k and after Guilliman’s revival. The Lion wouldn't hate what Guilliman has done, Guilliman would hate what the Lion would do. Sorrow suffused everything. He's no longer the Emperor's assassin. Essentially, he's basically in control of the entire Imperium. ago. The sacrifice required to keep the Emperor alive sickened the primarch. But here he was, alive and breathing. ’ The raging tempest spoke his name, and it was as the violence a dying sun rains upon its. The brother-on-brother battles of the Heresy had once seemed the height of madness to. ‘Guilliman is your father’s echo, heart and soul. Yes if I remember correctly there's a brief passage in the Dark imperium series where he ponders the location of his brothers. Guilliman is the Regent - his word is as if it came from the Emperor. If the Emperor Himself stood up, thought Guilliman, came down off His golden throne and proclaimed ‘I am not a god!’ then they would burn Him as a heretic. His charisma, humility, and loyalty to the Emperor to the point of self-sacrifice has earned him a great deal of reverence, even in. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Guilliman is base around rome and if you look at what romans use to wear, robes and lots of robes. Guilliman was clad in a magnifcent new suit of armour, an ornate masterwork that had travelled all the way. He is less certain whether the same remains true in 40k, but ultimately decides that it does. Primarch of the Ultramari. The Emperor's Sword is just a sweep attack weapon now and that feels similar to everyone else. As any us would be, Guilliman is rightly upset having been lied to and feels used and betrayed. The Emperor's light was blinding, all encompassing, but finally - finally - Guilliman had seen it as a whole. We know that the Ecclesiarchy and Guilliman are not the best of friends. When the Emperor appears to Magnus during the Siege, He projects into Magnus’ mind as a glowing sun-god and they burn through the warp together, moving through billions of years in moments. Roboute and the Emperor. Practical, the Emperor is not a god. Think about it, Guilliman was the only primarch. ‘Yes,’ Mathieu smiled serenely. Life_South_907 Dark Angels • 1 yr. At these rumoured stats, he'll be using the sword against most targets since he'll have 14 attacks and wound T4 on a 2 plus at D2. ’ ‘The Night Haunter?’ Sulymanya whispered. Why would Guilliman's political enemies say that the God Emperor ordered Guilliman to nuke an emptied temple-city, when they can say that Guilliman nuked a temple-city of the God Emperor? If they time the announcement right, half the Imperium could be ready to overthrow another Horus before Guilliman can try doing fact-checked damage control. Put simply: Guilliman does not believe in cultural relativism. Which makes sense, given his particular talents and strengths. He didn't create any more because it was a failed experiment. Colquan glared him. ‘The Emperor denied His own divinity,’ said Guilliman flatly. He lets Guilliman keep the 500 Worlds both to keep him occupied doing what he was designed to do, and to act as a 'second foundation' to the Imperium. Then you have wise and morally good Khan and Guilliman. In current 40k Guilliman recognized he had been too much of a yes-man to the Emperor, back during the Great Crusade he really didn't question him and tried to please him, even in detriment to certain principles he hold dear, this is reflected on how he never read the Lectitio Divinitatus as a way to show his support for the Emperor's Imperial. " ♫Dammit, wrong number again♫. Agronomy would probably still be really pissed at the emperor and by extension the imperium for letting all his fellow gladiators die on Nuceria. He still believes he is. Look what they have made of our dream. ‘Guilliman. I believe this excerpt from Dawn of Fire: The Gate of Bones gives the clearest answer we've had so far. - YouTube 0:00 / 27:34 THE EMPEROR SPEAKS! TRUTH OF HIS CONVERSATION WITH GUILLIMAN! Wolf Lord Rho 120K subscribers Subscribe 9. The Emperor spoke and did not speak. But the reality is, his death would get out. Guilliman ultimately wants nothing less than to destroy the Imperium as it exists and rebuild it anew. Drach'nyen may be one of these. Abaddon kills the Custodes. ‘Roboute Guilliman. Khan: would want to reform his legion and operate as a voidborne force. I can't imagine the Lion would go to war with Guilliman if it goes. And you're right. Guilliman dies, but the Emperor was using him as a Trojan horse to channel his power, he revives Guilliman now that he’s in the Garden. Said faith deifies the Emperor and, therefore, Guilliman himself, something which gets him pretty fired up. Guilliman has very different goals for the Imperium than the Emperor did. Guilliman- I’m literally a son of the Emperor. That he accepted, though it was a burden to be so. I don't know if any others ruled over an interstellar empire besides Dorn and Guilliman, but all of them accomplished something impressive with where they ended up. The traitor Primarchs make sense from their perspectives too. As proof, he has the support of the Custodes, including the Emissary Imperators themselves. While no-one can actually verify what was spoken of the fact that there was communication suggests the Emperor's may yet be healed. Yvraine resurrects Guilliman, and then after the shitstorm that follows right after, they have a respectful conversation with one another, and then Yvraine leaves. Option 2: After 10k years of being tortured by a glorified toilet seat, He's got no time to lose on being nice and shit and Guilliman thinking "He must've always. Guilliman coming back is so important that the emperor, in "dark imperium: plague wars" uses the most heavy handed methods to preserve him, like posessing a little girl, turning her into a saint and using so much power to kill demons and saving guilliman that the girl turned into ash ( i must however warn that it is a point of contention if the. Legally infinite functionality limited. With words of light and fire, the Emperor had conferred with His returned primarch, the last of his finest creations. He heard all these at once. The emperor only gives a shit about him because he’s all that’s left. 6. Guilliman is best described as disingenuous, unscrupulous, power-hungry, obsessively controlling, and self-deluded. Lion thought Guilliman was trying to become The Emperor 2. Context: The Imperials leaders are having a "discussion", regarding the war in the Webway, especially about the Emperor's edict of secrecy. The Horus Hearsay, where 9 drunken Primarchs say that the Emperor would totally be able to do a standing jump high enough to touch the ceiling of the throne room, and the other 9 argue that he needs a run-up, and the end result. If the Emperor wins, it will most likely be close to how he won in the old lore - by Horus giving him an oppotunity because of distraction. ‘He speaks to me, brother,’ said Roboute Guilliman. He may yet serve. This is not just any loyal primarch, this is the Lion, and Guilliman has been in a similar situation before. I believe most Space Marines have some clemency on the issue, but I have had little opportunity to engage any in conversation. Come what may, I have to stop Horus and Guilliman. The Emperor to break character and talk to his sons remotely, which he couldn't be asked to do when Guilliman returned, when Horus was tempted, when Magnus fell to the dark powers, when Russ went to arrest Magnus, and a lot of other times. 1. What hurt most deeply was what went unsaid. ago. The Primarchs are already called demigods throughout Godblight. Upon looking at all the available primarch weapons though, his seems to be the weakest one out of all of them. Kristian1805 • 1 yr. They need training in proper language, education, civics, science, etc. When ROGAL DORN of all Primarchs is criticizing the Emperor, you know it's serious. ‘So was Horus. ‘Confess, preacher,’ said Guilliman. Option 2: After 10k years of being tortured by a glorified toilet seat, He's got no time to lose on being nice and shit and Guilliman thinking "He must've always. The Silent King looms over him, ready to stab him through the heart. ’ ‘For the Emperor,’ Colquan responded. Commander Dante was nearly killed by the Tyranid on Baal, while recovering in what remain of the Blood Angel's Fortress Monastery he receives word that their saviors, The Primarch Roboute Guilliman, the Ultramarines, and a strange new type of Space Marine, had landed. They withdrew from Iax under the cover of a virus bomb and the forces of. Closer to Dark Eldar than Craftworld, and they terrorized the humans for thousands of generations. There's no such thing as a "better strategist" in a universal/overall capacity because different elements require different capacities, which. Oh yeah, and the High Lord killing stuff (though Guilliman more or less repeated what the Emperor did 10k years earlier). Guilliman tried to remember how tall the. Guilliman and Sanguinius are THE most reasonable Primarchs, the Lion was butthurt and acted like a. Guilliman, one presumes, heeded the warning. It's possible the Emperor could destroy it but the circumstances would have to allow it. I'd probably go as far as say armywide, since many of the Strategums would be more useful away from Guilliman. This marksbthe beginning ofbthe Plague Wars. He didn't want them to be useless in the aftermath, like some Legions were sure to be, looking at you World Eaters and Night Lords. Guilliman reminded Helbrecht of the oaths he had sworn, and how his duty as High Marshal was to all the Emperor's realm rather than just being to his own personal vendettas. Do not do this,’ said Thiel. -Guilliman was misguided in thinking the Emperor was dead, and he did plan on making another Empire. 17. I want Guilluman to name the Lion the Warmaster of Imperium Nihilus and send him off into the darkness with a massive fleet to absolutely fuck shit up. In addition of being tasked of punishing the Thousand Sons, it is (not that) subtly hinted that the Space Wolves were tasked to eliminate the Second and Eleventh Legions. ‘We were there together. ago. It like how scotland has a kilt but we say it is a skirt, different culture different rules. Nor did Sanguinius, who had powers of foresight second only to the Emperor Himself. The Emperor was never a god, denied He was a god and has been wrongly elevated by men who see power and mistake it for divinity. ’ ‘He will kill you, my lord. ’ He heard all these at once. During Roboute's absence, Konor Guilliman's co-consul, a man name Gallan, had unleashed a coup d'etat against Konor -- a development far from unknown historically, if in this instance a surprise. ’ ‘Fight me, you coward,’ growled Guilliman. King Konor of Macragge was my father. Everyone else may have had more actual power, but not as much authority. So, we know that Guilliman talked with the. ’. Always, it was the sword that did the damage. How petty. The Adepta Sororitas and Guilliman. Well, Rogal did say the Emperor's delusions were growing worse. Szarekh, seeming more than a little bored, just no-sells the entire fight until Bobby G sees some pattern in his style and adapts to match it, scoring one (1) pretty big hit. Guilliman was more clinical, considered. Mathieu smiled. In Dark Imperium it states that Guilliman did speak to the emperor telepathically and the emperor's mind has strengthened to completely new levels however he has lost his patience and humanity in the process, living as a consciousness. 15 votes, 14 comments. If all else went wong Guilliman would be heir to the empire. The Emperor greeted Guilliman not as a father receives a son, but as a craftsmen who rediscovers a favourite tool that he thought lost. Templars- Absolutely!It was made pretty clear in the Dark Imperium Novels that Guilliman largely disapproves of the Ecclesiarchy and, in general, the religion created around the Emperor. He brought Guilliman back to life from the vastly aged husk that Nurgle’s Godblight did to him. Perhaps him hearing the Emperor say “you were my tools” was just what Roboute thought all along, thus the illusion fit the image. ’ ‘I fear he is beyond hope. The Custodians' captain-general gave it to him; Guilliman did not begrudge the priest his awe. Was Roboute Guilliman the chosen heir to the Emperor?General Spoiler Warning to begin as the events. Guilliman was clearly favored, Perturabo would have resented that about as much as he resented Dorn's treatment. I'd say stealing away thousands upon thousands of potential Astartes candidates/actual serving Astartes to turn them into improved super soldiers that you then keep hidden until the incredibly edge case scenario of Guilliman coming back to life occurs definitely seems like a total betrayal of the Emperor and his Imperium. They are still a part of the Emperor's glorious Angels of Death :) ReplyYou say that the remaining legions were all exemplary, but the problem is many of the traitor legions were also exemplary before the heresy, such as the Luna wolves and the EC, so how do you handle the risk that a exemplary chapter CAN go off the rails. You may recall that we teased this battle in the run-up to the launch of Warhammer+ when we took a peek behind the scenes to discover how the Garden of Iax. Guilliman is a supreme statesman, he's also able to do the same thing. 7. Hey everyone! Wolf Lord Rho here!Today we discuss the revelation of the Emperor's words to his son, the returned Roboute Guilliman. It is a time of Legend. It is good to be reminded that I am a person as well as a. The seeming fact that Dorn held this position in Guilliman's stead until essentially the moment Guilliman arrived, at which point Dorn immediately abdicated and Guilliman took up the role, indicates to me that there was a pre-existing understanding of some sort that Guilliman would take the overall reigns in the Emperor's prolonged absence. injures Nurgle himself implicaton is that while this was a massive, MASSIVE, strain on the Emperor's power, he WILL do it again After his resurrection, Roboute Guilliman has gained an audience with his father, the Emperor of Mankind. Mortarion was trying to pull all of ultramar into warp and needed to kill Guilliman by disease but he ended up calling to emperor who set fire to the garden. This is after his "death" and resurrection, his meeting with the Emperor and his experiences with the Inquisition and Ecclesiarchy. His presence was immense, dominant as a thunderhead suddenly filling the shrine with its crushing pressure. My theory is that Guilliman knew he and his siblings wouldn't be always around to guide the Legions. ‘He is not a god,’ said Guilliman out loud. The Emperor’s plans had failed completely, and suffering was the lot of all men. ‘So was Horus. He was overwhelming. We know Guilliman was impressed enough with Perturabo's siege terminator tactics in particular to emulate them and seek to refine them with his Fulmentarus squads. Remember that Guilliman was revived on Macragge, far from Terra, and it was on Macragge that he learned about the past ten thousand years. Guilliman turned away and strode towards the occupied cell. The final battle of the war took place here, with Guilliman and Mortarion fighting each other to a standstill amongst the ruins of Iax. CryptoGuilliman assumes control of the entire military apparatus of the Imperium as Lord Commander with the Emperor's explicit blessing. If this happens, the Custodes could possibly follow Guilliman instead of protecting the throne (if they believe this is the Emperor's will), and thus move towards being their own faction. Inspired and masterminded by the return of the legendary Primarch, the Ultramar Campaign was soon won, with the resurgent. ” Emps: “TO SAY THAT I AM SURPRISED IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT. While guilliman learns from mistakes and gradually become better, horus is impossibly good. As soon as it turns sunshine and rainbows it's not 40k anymore. Guilliman is loyal to the idea of human civilization and progress, not the Emperor himself. ’ ‘I am not holy,’ said Guilliman. . He did not hear them at all. While Guilliman is in charge of the Ultramarines, he is Lord Commander of the Imperium. By all accounts, the XIII Legion was one of the most effective measured by quantity of successful compliances. If the Emperor did somehow physically revive humanity would immediately be the most dominant force in the Universe.